financing your travel

topic posted Sat, October 21, 2006 - 10:50 AM by  Claire
how do you all make enough money to travel? do you work at "home" for a while until you save a bunch up, then move on, or do you work at short jobs occasionally in the places you go (under the table)? are you all independently wealthy, or possessing fabulous rock star, movie star, or famous author passive paychecks?

i did a search and it seems this question comes up a lot and nobody really answers it directly...that's where the thread peters out. so help me out, guys!
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Claire
  • Re: financing your travel

    Sat, October 21, 2006 - 12:19 PM
    I'm not wealthy so the first two things you mention are routes I've gone. The main thing is the commitment: everyone makes some amount of money, how will it be spent? Remember there will be sacrifices, and that's a broad term: relationships, comforts, mental health etc etc. But I know I'd go nuts if I tried to plug into some straight life. It's not a formula you can just pass on to someone, it's something that figures itself out. Times of joy, times of drudgery - barley living until you make that next trip for the sake of the trip, times of straight up blues. But if it's in you, you know and you just go.

    It's a long story of course, but the short version is I've been to all 50 states and 24 countries so far. This is 90% financed through my own blue collar hands and since '86. I have never made more than 24k in a single year, most years much less. I consider these 'hobo' skills, and yet rarely am I living on the street, yet often 'homeless' for periods. Gotta be good to good friends and appreciate a couch.

    I return to Thailand and quickly head up into Laos again as of Nov. 2 These are some of the good times!
    Also, depending on where you want you want to go and what your comfort zone is, it doesn't take as much $ as most Americans think. I know it's different for women, but this fact cuts two ways in a manner of speaking.
  • Re: financing your travel

    Sun, October 22, 2006 - 10:40 PM
    Just as important as how much money make is how much you spend.
    I used to travel on a few bucks a day in south America and it can be done in asia, if you get paid 10$ and hour, every hour is three days, provided you spend little while you make that.
    Now, I have business where fortunately I have to travel to make my money, I do imports, primarily custom surfboards out of ecuador, but the potential for independent business is unlimited.
    You can always work as you, for free rooms or whatever.
    Be creative and practical and live your dreams.
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      Sun, October 22, 2006 - 10:41 PM
      oh yeah, herb supports many peoples travels, go up to mendo and figure it out.
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        Tue, October 24, 2006 - 1:00 PM
        I recently spent 5 months hiking the Pacific Crest Trail (much, much cheaper than say flying to India, but still.. )

        Anway, everyone asked me how I could afford it (it didn't cost that much, but still...)

        It's true, it's not how much money you make, it's about how much you save.

        1. First, pay off your debt. Credit cards are evil. If you can't afford it, you probably don't need it.

        2. Do you really need a car? Cars are money pits, loans, insurance, gas, taxes, tickets, you probably have no idea how much your car is costing you. Move closer to your work or buy a bus pass. When you really, really need a car, consider borrowing one from a friend, or renting one.

        3. Rent. Most people I know spend waaaayyyyy too much on rent. I've rarely paid more than $300 per month for my own room, gas and utilities included. Look around, there are all kinds of ways to live rent free or virtually rent free. These include helping someone who is differently abled, to helping someone with a business a few hours a week, to being the live-in gardener, to house sitting.

        4. The misc. brew your own coffee, get your entertainment (movies/magazines/books) from the public library, avoid paying admission at events/parties by offering to volunteer, work out at the local community college gym (or just ride your bike to work for exercise!).

        The bottom line is that you don't have to be independently wealthy to travel, just smart about your money.
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          Tue, October 24, 2006 - 1:48 PM
          Good points/details backing up the general theory Chai, I'm into every one of those things! Some towns do require a car for a lot of things, but no one says you have to be in those towns. My $500 volvo just gave up the ghost, but someone offered me $100 for it's parts. $400 to have a car for almost two years: I ain't bitchin'. Having an older car (mostly steel based parts rather than fiberglass, before all those computerized components) that you can learn to work on as much as possible is a plus too. So maybe you can't do a steady 85 on the highway, just stay in the slower lane and let all those assholes race off to their doom (I guess this is a mostly an ATL complaint, but I assume it's the same in most of the southern US 'LA style' sprawl cities: Houston, Pheonix etc etc.)

          I've heard to through- hike the AT ends up costing about a dollar a mile in the end, a few K. Would assume the PCT was even more so (more remote, rugged in parts) Did you not find this to be the case? If you shop around and take the time (plenty o' layovers) you can get to India for under 2K.
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            Thu, October 26, 2006 - 4:55 PM
            Good info. I love this question, and have asked it a million times before myself. It's great hearing so many people sharing info like this. Really helps out the 'would be' traveller, and like everyone told me it's the first step that's the hardest.

            Actually deciding to travell is the hardest part of the whole process. Once you're there, you'll figure things out.
        • RL
          RL
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          Re: financing your travel

          Fri, January 26, 2007 - 7:24 PM
          I think bullet number four reigns true for everything in life and not just times when you are scrapping for the next big trip.

          The R and R Show.
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          Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:16 PM
          I've been looking for lower rent and exchanges for months - in Los Angeles the opportunities are very rare or involve sex exchanges :( Hell No
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    Thu, October 26, 2006 - 10:23 PM
    I live in Los Angeles and earned (before I quit my job) decent pay for someone with a degree and lived in a fairly nice apartment with a roommate. I simply did not buy a lot of things. I could still afford to go to concerts and travel because I didn't buy all the "stuff" most of my friends get, and I saved abought $500 or more a month. Two years later...

    A lot of my friends do not cook and eat all their meals out. This costs SO MUCH. Their cost for food for one day is what I spend per week on groceries.
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      Sun, October 29, 2006 - 12:49 AM
      Yes, hiking the PCT cost roughly $1 per mile. I spent a little less than that because I only slept in motel room twice. You could easily spend more.

      Sometimes you just NEED a car to go from point A to point B. I found that I was able to buy a good used motorcycle for less than $1,000 and it's been running well for over a year. It gets amazing gas mileage and you can go 85+ in the fast lane. I know they aren't for everyone, but..


      • Re: financing your travel

        Sun, October 29, 2006 - 12:50 AM
        Oh, and the best part is that from what I can tell, the motorcycle (unlike a car) isn't going to depreciate much below that $1000 mark as long as I keep it running well.
        • Re: financing your travel

          Thu, November 2, 2006 - 11:13 PM
          great info everyone. It's also in how you view travelling or being nomadic. I live in different areas for 6 months or a year and then just move on....why? because I feel it in my bones. Why stay in one place all you life when there is so frickin' much out there to explore. A cheap way to live in new and beautiful areas every season is to work for national parks, or tourist operations, (there are so many in AK) Your room and board is usually covered and then you just go on to the next place.

          I have spent countless hours thinking about a way to travel constantly (constantly could mean staying in one place for a few months to work) in other countries. I figure you need to work along the way, doing whatever you can or have some skill that can be valuable anywhere in the world,.
          My idea of travelling is now starting to shift, as now I have my own business that I can do virtually anywhere. So now I am looking into converting a school bus and hitting the road.
          Debt is the thing that most people get bogged down by, but I guess just continue paying it, you can pay it from anywhere..............hey, maybe you won't need to pay it at all anymore, like say in .....................2012?
  • working on it

    Fri, November 3, 2006 - 8:37 AM
    I'm working towards being 100% virtual employee and business owner. This way I can work on the road and from anywhere.

    Other tips

    Buy a small RV and try to get seasonal / temporary jobs as a Resident Manager, security, watch dog

    recycle - I use recycling as gas money and sometimes I make $3 or $4 a weekend (lazy - no effort) and when I actually try I have made up to $20 per weekend day and than again after a festival at a local park I've made almost $50....

    Know where you can turn for help if anything goes wrong. I.e. Travel Assistance foundations, friends, network with online people.

    Camp Grounds are cheap to spend the night at - up to $20 per night.
    If you have an RV you can do it for free on public streets.

    Volunteer for entertainment - work and have fun at concerts, galleries, clubs, festivals ect...



    Online research will give you tons of resources for jobs, hints and tricks.

    I've been practicing the travel nomad lifestyle for the last month...
    I have a gym membership for showers and general fitness and a mail box where all my mail goes to.
    I plan to get a laptop for all my internet / pc needs
    I'm taking Karate for self defense confidence
    Learning how to handle problems or ensure bad situations don't happen or how to take care of them if they do.
  • Re: financing your travel

    Mon, January 22, 2007 - 10:03 PM
    depends on how many folks you got with ya too. on board a bus we all worked on hemp jewelry and beadswork. in key west walkin the streets at night my bro drew and me were making $100 a night easy.
    that same $100 night some cool guy who bought 6 braclets earlier in the day was at a bar me n drew stumbled into, and he bought us a burger.

    depends on how you're gettin around too. you can travel by car or foot, depends on what you wanna do, yeah an auto is gunna cost ya some cheddar, but really sister, out on the road you dont spend too too much money either way. ya can, but man... making sometimes some good money one night can last ya a few days.

    drew would drive the bus into trucker fill up stations, and would light up a cigarette and talk to some ridinon truckers, fin-john in hand. talk about his travels and his bus - the highway child. they stayed on willie nelsons ranch earlier this year~~,, finish a cigarette, and ask if they could spare a gallon or two. they usually fill up the finjohn, few gallons,, do that a few times and ya got yourself a free tank.

    get a van, you can suit it to Home , put in a cozy bed and even a little stove? cooler and build a shelf for food, usually not too expensive for the propane and to keep the supplies stocked,,

    free gas, few bucks food... what else do ya need?

    on the highway child, i'd walk into subway sandwich shops late at night and ask em if they could throw me some cookies , if they could hook it up a sub.. they do,,
    mcdonalds, free fry friday~? thanks mama~ luvin you~*

    FOR FINANCING~~ making hemp jewelry could keep ya funded. you'd have to sell it in the streets and some places ya might get nabbed by the fuzz for doing that.. but when you're sellin, im tellin ya, folks love themselves some Love n Light, bright gypsie eyes and open heart,, you wont ever have trouble selling off your hemp.
    travel around , visit the towns you wanna see,,, tallahassee, atlanta, chatanoogah, knoxville, asheville
    enjoy the town, sell the goods, do the damn thing, and head back up off..
    ask folks in towns where there is good forest, good trail, good folks to park a van. GOOD NATURE! =)
    vans bed is cozy dogs den, comfy comfy
    but sometimes it's nice to take a backpack and tent into the woods and camp out ,,, ya got that onboard~
    if you go with a few people things get easier,, faster hemp makin, good times round campfire, etc,

    right now im lookin to save up for a van and hit the road for a as far as i could see, myself.
    goin to rainbow gatherin in ocala florida, then comin back home and gunna work for a few more months, home out my van, and vroom~~
    dreams happen just like that, taking a first step.. dont gotta be rock star or nothing, heh =)
    just livin dreams, it aint any harder to live em then to dream em,, enjoyem
    • Re: financing your travel

      Sat, February 17, 2007 - 8:09 PM
      WWOOF

      Hitchhike
      Sail instead of flying
      Network
      :)
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        Thu, June 14, 2007 - 6:12 PM
        even more reliable than WWOOF (I've heard stories where travelers were taken advantage of by some farmers) is the couchsurfing project
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          Thu, June 14, 2007 - 7:11 PM
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            Wed, September 19, 2007 - 9:51 AM
            SistaWeotch's,
            I visited the the 2 links you provided (www.couchsurfing.com and also www.hospitalityclub.org)
            I was terribly disappointed in the hospitalityclub.
            Have you had any real personal experiences with this site?
            I entered the chat room to get a feel from some of the members, explaining that I was interested in joining this site, but wanted to hear from real members their thoughts about the benefits of being a member, & how they felt about this site in general.
            All I got in return was unsolicited "Sexually" oriented, abusive individuals.
            Is this just some kind of international Sex hook-up site???
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              Wed, September 19, 2007 - 11:24 AM
              I've not encountered that at all. Indeed, if I did encounter that from an HC member, I would report it immediately. And yes, I have met people from there. My friend, Saviour, who came to meet me on Stromboli and then climbed Mt. Etna with me is someone I met through HC. With another friend of his, also from Malta, we attended a couchsurfing.com meeting in Palermo. They stayed for the full 3 days, I was only able to attend a picnic. At the picnic I met up with several wonderful CS people and one pal who is only on HC. She's Polish, but lives in London, and our birthdays are only a few days apart and on and on... Wonderful people, truly.

              The chat on the CS site seems to be more lively and is through a client that is only on their site. I believe HC chat is through IRC, so non-HC members probably pop in there. I'm guessing that's what you encountered. Most of the time it's very quiet. I feel quite fortunate that I happened to sign in during a busier time and find Saviour there that evening. Serendipity in action, as with most travel. :)

              Cordially,
              SW
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                Wed, September 19, 2007 - 11:42 AM
                Thanks for your input.
                I dropped in a little later & was happily suprised to interact with a much higher quality of people.
                Being a single traveling woman, I try hard not to get associated with anything (in my words sleazy) unquestionable.
                That's why I went into their (I'm guessing) open chat room to get a feel about the character of the members there.
                Thanks again for your input.
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          Re: financing your travel

          Sun, September 23, 2007 - 4:07 PM
          while i dont doubt this, i would be as likely to suspect some wwoof'rs dont know what they are getting into....farming can be a very romanticized notion to many seeking the "organic" lifestyle
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    Sun, August 5, 2007 - 8:58 AM
    I've had a lot of success teaching English as a second language overseas. I had to sign a year contract in Korea and that sucked, but I was able to save some serious cash for my next adventures. When I was down and out in India, I hit up the one school that I saw advertising on the TV and sure enough, I sorted myself out for a month.

    Someone already said it, but I'll say it again. You'll figure it out when you get there....if you really want to, that is.
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    Sun, August 5, 2007 - 12:11 PM
    My bf and came to Thailand about 2 months ago with 3000 Us $. Thailand and neighboring countries as well as India and Nepal are pretty darn cheap so you can see and do a lot without having to spend too much. We pay about 5 dollars a night for a room and 2 dollars for nice filling meal of curry and tea. I think once you get up and GO you are bound to meet lots of other travelers who will have advice about how to find jobs, save money, etc...We´ve already been offered a teaching job in Bangkok thats pays considerably well. I´ve seen quite a few bulletins for job offers too. I think its all about networking, getting to know other experienced travellers, and being creative. Oh and another thing, Volunteering is a great way to spend little money and you are doing something worthwhile at the same time. If you ever plan on going to Asia drop me an email and I can help you out.
    • lea
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      Re: financing your travel

      Tue, August 7, 2007 - 6:39 PM
      i've been traveling for the past 10 years or so...started with a month trekking in Nepal, headed back stateside to begin grad school, spent a year doing research in India, traveled 6 months after that...mostly volunteering...and have just kept going from there. If you are under 30, US citizens can get work visas for NZ, AU, England, Canada, which gives you the freedom to get work anywhere...but, volunteering, wwoofing are abundant just about anywhere...In Israel, check out staying at a kibbutz, where you get room and board, free trips around the country and a small stipend...many wwoofing hosts will pay by the hour...i've done that in Hawaii for a while...it really just is a matter of making traveling and that lifestyle a priority. You give up the security of having a secure job, a house/home, I don' t have a car, don't see family much, only have a few friends that I see on a regular basis, but the benefits are hard to ignore...Another thing to check out, especially if you enjoy staying somewhere for at least a few months are the communities that exist, some are more of retreat centers that have volunteers work for room and board, I've lived at Omega Institute in new York, Mana Retreat Center in New Zealand, kalani in Hawaii...a great way to meet like-minded people and feel like you have a home base...and a way to meet people who know of other places around the world to stay...
  • Re: financing your travel

    Tue, September 18, 2007 - 12:27 AM
    Here's a few things I've done to be able to go on loooong trips:

    1. WWOOF (www.wwoof.org) - 'world wide opportunities on organic farms'. Many countries have this organization. You work anywhere from 3-7 hours/day for room and board. You could be doing anything from building a straw bale house to winemaking to tagging sheep. I did this in New Zealand and spent one month on one farm and a couple of weeks on another. Also awesome 'cause you get to eat this great fresh food.

    2. Work at youth hostels - I would work for two hours each day changing sheets for a free room. I don't know if that's the common rate of exchange but probably something close to that. Just ask at the desk if they could use a hand.

    3. Under the table work - it's out there. I've done hotel work, cafe work, and potato harvesting (of all things....I don't recommend it. Dirt in all the wrong places)

    4. Teaching English - in many countries, there will be flyers up on the hostel bulletin board looking for English teachers. No experience required. There are also more reputable English language schools that pay more but require something like a CELTA teaching certificate. Some countries in general are stricter in their requirements than others. CELTA requires one month of full time class to earn. It's pricey ($1200 - $2400 from what I've seen). I haven't done this but have been looking into it for my next foray. CELTA is available in countries all over the world. So you can take it in, Prague, say, and pay less than in the US and your cost of living is also cheaper there.

    On the spending less money side....youth hostels and farmers markets. Not only are hostels cheap but you make new friends as soon as you arrive and wind up with penpals for years. Also you may find yourself with a place to stay when you're visiting their part of the world. Hostels often have kitchens where you can make your own food....beats eating out.
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      Tue, September 18, 2007 - 11:54 AM
      I've been thinking about doing some traveling on the cheap, and how to finance it. From my, recently begun, reading:
      It''s where to stay, and how to make a few bucks along the way.
      Hostels seem to be the best bet in terms of temporary housing that you can prearrange.
      As for work, well, I think anyone planning on a trip should have some skill that is universal.
      I've heard bead making, TESL, bartending, etc. Even non-skilled work like dishwashing might
      be able to get you by if live modestly. I think everyone first needs to take into account their
      own skills, and then also decide how modestly they are willing to live while they travel.

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        Sun, September 23, 2007 - 2:10 PM
        Most of my 6 years of travel stateside was liveing in a vw pop top. It had a stove, 2 beds, and a "spirit" of adventure imbedded in it. It also had a habit of needing repair, so the van route is recommended but vws can be an extra challenge(maybe you're looking for that challenge of HAVEING to learn how to wrench on vehicles?). I took it to as big a city as Houston and as remote as some mountain roads where in a weeks stay only saw one vehicle(it was a jeep, and after seeing that bus on the hillside without a road leading to it, turned around with tail between legs). Bottomline; house+ride+mechanic school=3birds w/1 stone(h+r+s=E3). I kept hearing in these posts to be creative and i could'nt agree more. Challenge the comfort of the known with new growth in a custom adventure. Happy trails...-j
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          Mon, October 1, 2007 - 2:55 PM
          I've done it a number of different ways from teaching english, to saving over a long period of time. This next time i'm going to surrender my summer to work day in and out at a lodge and make a lot of money to go follow my wanderlust.

          There are several jobs in the middle of nowhere that aren't the most exciting that pay decently enough. Usually they provide room and board and you don't have anywhere to spend your money so you end up with a good amount at the end of it all.

          There are so many ways and I hope to somehow just be able to find away that is easier but for now that's my way of going about it.
  • Re: financing your travel

    Tue, October 2, 2007 - 2:27 AM
    Hi,
    When I was in school I was able to finance my travel through scholarships. While i was studying in korea i was able to teach english on the side. I made enough to go to China two times for a total of two months. After I returned I bought a cheap 500 dollar car, which I took good care of while I saved money for my next trip. The last few trips have been really fun. In terms of financing it just took a bit of practicality and frugality. I rarely buy soda, or fruit juice. Instead of buying some meal for 14 bucks I cook one in my house for less than 5 dollars. I mainly hang out with friends and we rarely go out to clubs.
    I am self employed and try to mix travel with business. I often go to China, so I try to visit some new places when the opportunity arises. On my next trip I will go to china and japan. The ticket was 980 only bucks. I will check out some museums in japan and meet up with my friends. I will stay in hostels because those are the cheapest places to stay, and where you can meet other foreigners.
    The only things I spend money on is music, food, some clothes and basic day to day things. I rarely watch tv, and try to turn things off in the house so as to save money on electricity. All this really helps and becomes meaningful when you have an a goal, being to travel for a month or half a year.
    Asia is the cheapest place to visit and you would be surprised how far 1000 dollars goes in places like China or India. Meaning that if you buy your ticket on time and for you to depart on a weekday you might only need to have 3000 dollars to cover your whole trip. Any one can come up with 3000 in less than a year. I only have one credit card and rarely use it. I try to buy things cash so that way i dont have unnecessary bills at the end of the month.
    A good way to save some extra cash is going to second hand stores and browsing through furniture, eating utensils, and the book section. I am not financially rich, but i intend to have a rich experience while i am alive. Many people get caught up in buying the new BMW, or some new Mustang, the ipod, the iphone, the bluetooth thing blah blah blah. In the end it is a matter of making it happen. You want to travel then take the necessary steps to be able to do so. "a 1000 mile journey begins with one step." (chinese proverb)
    Teaching in the US is a great avenue to save money and travel. Atleast here in California most teachers get a total of about 3 months vacation. I guess only after you've worked as a teacher for a while you can take advantage of this time, but nevertheless alot of traveling can be done within 3 months, every year.

    good day,

    Armando
  • Iva
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    Re: financing your travel

    Fri, November 23, 2007 - 12:42 PM
    One thing I do to help finance my travels is buy things in that country that I know I can sell well at home, then go to a local funky shop that would sells items on consignment and give it to them. Then I get 50% of the total when they sell it. I have made hundreds this way and it takes almost no effort.....right now stuff from Japan is especially hot. YOu can buy stuff in a hundred yen (1$ shop) that people will pay $14 for here.

    I also hitchhike, Wwoof, and couchsurf to save money. Busking is a good idea too....drumming, jewlery, tarot cards......learning a simple portable skill is really handy. Also, when you get somewhere, go to the main plazas or hang out points and just put the word out that you would like to make some cash....all sorts of short term opportunities can turn up to finance your stay. WOrking in hostels is always a good idea to save some cash as well....